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Post by moonstone on Apr 10, 2008 16:37:06 GMT -5
Add the eggs one at a time, mixing after each addition. Beat two minutes on medium speed with an electric mixer or three minutes by hand. (Hmm--g1's "egg timer" won't help here.) Just to clarify... it's not "my" egg timer. (I use the microwave -- it only takes 45 seconds.... Oh, never mind...) As your lawyer, let me advise you to quit while you're ahead ...
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Post by Laura on Apr 10, 2008 16:39:45 GMT -5
Add the eggs one at a time, mixing after each addition. Beat two minutes on medium speed with an electric mixer or three minutes by hand. (Hmm--g1's "egg timer" won't help here.) Just to clarify... it's not "my" egg timer. (I use the microwave -- it only takes 45 seconds.... Oh, never mind...) LOL! Pan..cover your ears boy.
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Post by Jamie on Apr 11, 2008 10:17:48 GMT -5
Read a book? What the heck is that??? Kidding. Since becoming a Mom, I find the time to read very rare-that's life. I've never been the one for the British classics. I used to be into the whole genre of Stephen King and for the love of whatever, the guy I can't remember right now. I've read all of Sue Grafton's (just finished T for Trepass yesterday, as I had some doc appts). I also like Patricia Cornwell's, no matter how predictable they can be. For the lighter side, I've read all of Maeve Binchy and Rosamunde Pilchers. 'Funnily' enough, I read 'Shell Seekers' before it became uber popular. I used to read Tom Clancy, Crichton, etc., but I can't stomach it anymore-for obvious reasons. The Onion Field was probably one of the best books I've ever read. I think it piqued my interest because it was a true story that happened in SoCal. I miss reading. That used to be my passion. My boys (all 5 of them) are my passion now, but I do miss reading for just the sake of reading.
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Post by Jamie on Apr 11, 2008 10:22:36 GMT -5
Richard Wolffe?? Oh my, those looks, that accent, AND, he can cook? ?? Mama Mia! I just might share with you all my Americanized version of Tiramisu-which by the way taste just as good if not better than the Italian version-and I should know. It's Americanized because when we left Italy back in '94, it was very difficult to find some Italian ingredients in Jax, FL, so I had to improvise. If you can find lady fingers-the firm kind-I just might give you the recipe. Let me know.
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Post by moonstone on Apr 11, 2008 10:26:00 GMT -5
Talking about true crime, of course, there's always In Cold Blood by Truman Capote, which also was a great movie, and has anyone else read Helter Skelter about the Manson family (by Vincent Bugliosi, I believe)? That was the most chilling book I ever read. I remember giving it to my boyfriend to take home with him because I literally couldn't stand to keep it in the house. I had trouble sleeping for months after reading that book.
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Post by Laura on Apr 11, 2008 10:28:10 GMT -5
Read a book? What the heck is that??? Kidding. Since becoming a Mom, I find the time to read very rare-that's life. I've never been the one for the British classics. I used to be into the whole genre of Stephen King and for the love of whatever, the guy I can't remember right now. I've read all of Sue Grafton's (just finished T for Trepass yesterday, as I had some doc appts). I also like Patricia Cornwell's, no matter how predictable they can be. For the lighter side, I've read all of Maeve Binchy and Rosamunde Pilchers. 'Funnily' enough, I read 'Shell Seekers' before it became uber popular. I used to read Tom Clancy, Crichton, etc., but I can't stomach it anymore-for obvious reasons. The Onion Field was probably one of the best books I've ever read. I think it piqued my interest because it was a true story that happened in SoCal. I miss reading. That used to be my passion. My boys (all 5 of them) are my passion now, but I do miss reading for just the sake of reading. Wow! Jamie, you're the only person I know who has read all of Sue Grafton's books so far. Hey..glad you used "funnily" my new favorite word! Did you read Helter Skelter by Vince Bugliosi? about the Tate/LaBianca murders? Also took place in So. CA..a great read. Good to see you on the threads friend..
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Post by Laura on Apr 11, 2008 10:32:20 GMT -5
Talking about true crime, of course, there's always In Cold Blood by Truman Capote, which also was a great movie, and has anyone else read Helter Skelter about the Manson family (by Vincent Bugliosi, I believe)? That was the most chilling book I ever read. I remember giving it to my boyfriend to take home with him because I literally couldn't stand to keep it in the house. I had trouble sleeping for months after reading that book. Funny you should mention Helter Skelter. I just responded to Jamie about it. I have read it. I was working LAPD when the murders took place. I was a civilian employee but was fascinated with the detectives I worked with going down to Robbery/Homicide several times a day to see what they discovered, look at crime scene photos, etc. The book was chilling to say the least. When it came out, I couldn't put it down. A recommend read, for all lovers of true crime.
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Post by moonstone on Apr 11, 2008 10:48:08 GMT -5
Read a book? What the heck is that??? Kidding. Since becoming a Mom, I find the time to read very rare-that's life. I've never been the one for the British classics. I used to be into the whole genre of Stephen King and for the love of whatever, the guy I can't remember right now. I've read all of Sue Grafton's (just finished T for Trepass yesterday, as I had some doc appts). I also like Patricia Cornwell's, no matter how predictable they can be. For the lighter side, I've read all of Maeve Binchy and Rosamunde Pilchers. 'Funnily' enough, I read 'Shell Seekers' before it became uber popular. I used to read Tom Clancy, Crichton, etc., but I can't stomach it anymore-for obvious reasons. The Onion Field was probably one of the best books I've ever read. I think it piqued my interest because it was a true story that happened in SoCal. I miss reading. That used to be my passion. My boys (all 5 of them) are my passion now, but I do miss reading for just the sake of reading. Wow! Jamie, you're the only person I know who has read all of Sue Grafton's books so far. Hey..glad you used "funnily" my new favorite word! Did you read Helter Skelter by Vince Bugliosi? about the Tate/LaBianca murders? Also took place in So. CA..a great read. Good to see you on the threads friend.. Now you know two other people who have read all of Sue Grafton's books.
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Post by Fairweather on Apr 11, 2008 10:51:14 GMT -5
Read both The Onion Field and Helter Skelter. Have to say though, I found another book of Vincent Bugliosi's, written after he left the DA's office and became a defense attorney, more interesting. It was called And the Sea Will Tell, and was about the murders of a husband and wife by a sociopathic drifter--for no better reason than he wanted their boat!! Bugliosi was the attorney for the drifter's girlfriend, who was charged separately from him. He proved beyond a reasonable doubt--at least to the jury--that she knew nothing of what happened. Me, I have my doubts.
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Post by Krista on Apr 11, 2008 11:16:17 GMT -5
Talking about true crime, of course, there's always In Cold Blood by Truman Capote, which also was a great movie, and has anyone else read Helter Skelter about the Manson family (by Vincent Bugliosi, I believe)? That was the most chilling book I ever read. I remember giving it to my boyfriend to take home with him because I literally couldn't stand to keep it in the house. I had trouble sleeping for months after reading that book. Yep, Vincent wrote Helter Skelter. And, one of my big grad school papers/projects was about In Cold Blood; I basically lived, breathed, and slept that book and the research into if for months. Goulish me would like to go see the Clutter house and pay my respects. I've seen the crime scene photos, too. My grad school advisor tried to talk me into writing a thesis; no way, Jose'!!
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Post by Krista on Apr 11, 2008 11:17:09 GMT -5
Richard Wolffe?? Oh my, those looks, that accent, AND, he can cook? ?? Mama Mia! I just might share with you all my Americanized version of Tiramisu-which by the way taste just as good if not better than the Italian version-and I should know. It's Americanized because when we left Italy back in '94, it was very difficult to find some Italian ingredients in Jax, FL, so I had to improvise. If you can find lady fingers-the firm kind-I just might give you the recipe. Let me know. Tiramisu???!!! [insert Homer Simpson gurgle here]
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Post by Jamie on Apr 11, 2008 11:24:16 GMT -5
Yo Sista-I'll make it for you in person in Oct.
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Post by Laura on Apr 11, 2008 11:25:50 GMT -5
Read both The Onion Field and Helter Skelter. Have to say though, I found another book of Vincent Bugliosi's, written after he left the DA's office and became a defense attorney, more interesting. It was called And the Sea Will Tell, and was about the murders of a husband and wife by a sociopathic drifter--for no better reason than he wanted their boat!! Bugliosi was the attorney for the drifter's girlfriend, who was charged separately from him. He proved beyond a reasonable doubt--at least to the jury--that she knew nothing of what happened. Me, I have my doubts. Read this one too..great read. I never believed the girlfriend was innocent, of the murders maybe, but not that she didn't know what was happening. This book was made into a movie, I think with Rachel Ward.
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Post by Fairweather on Apr 11, 2008 11:33:48 GMT -5
Right, Miss Laura, Rachel Ward as the girlfriend, Richard Crenna as Bugliosi, and Hart Bochner as the drifter. Made for TV in 1991.
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Post by Laura on Apr 11, 2008 14:49:38 GMT -5
Right, Miss Laura, Rachel Ward as the girlfriend, Richard Crenna as Bugliosi, and Hart Bochner as the drifter. Made for TV in 1991. Another great author and someone I thought got a rotten deal during the O J Simpson trial is Mark Fuhrman. His books are excellent and all true crime. His latest book is about the JFK assassination and his take on the evidence and conclusion in his opinion, as to who committed the crime. A great read.
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Post by Jamie on Apr 12, 2008 9:24:28 GMT -5
Right, Miss Laura, Rachel Ward as the girlfriend, Richard Crenna as Bugliosi, and Hart Bochner as the drifter. Made for TV in 1991. Another great author and someone I thought got a rotten deal during the O J Simpson trial is Mark Fuhrman. His books are excellent and all true crime. His latest book is about the JFK assassination and his take on the evidence and conclusion in his opinion, as to who committed the crime. A great read. Yeah, but if he would have just told the truth-talk about political correctness to the nth degree. I always wonder why he didn't just say, "yeah, I used that word before, but making a racist comment doesn't make me a conspirator to frame a famous former football player." That being said, I'd think I'd rather read his books than anybody else that was part of the trial. When it's all said and done though, they have ALL made money off the brutal murders of two innocent human beings. I think I'll pass on those kind of 15 minutes of fame.
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Post by bluestocking on Apr 12, 2008 10:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by moonstone on Apr 12, 2008 10:35:09 GMT -5
OMG, blue -- that's spectacular. What did they used to say? Watch it wiggle, see it jiggle ... Thank you so much. I could use a big heaping helping of that right now. For your "grape" of the day, here's a recipe for "Savory Cucumber Mold." The description reads, "Green grapes and chives brighten this green and yellow salad." (Doesn't that sound good?) 1 6 oz. pkg. lemon-flavored gelatin 2 c. boiling water 1 3/4 c. cold watr 1/4 c. vinegar 1/2 tsp. salt 1/4 tsp. ground black pepper 1 1/2 c. peeled, seeded, chopped cucumber 1/2 c. halved green grapes 1 Tbsp. chopped chives Dissolve gelatin in boiling water; stir in cold water, vinegar, salt and pepper. Chill until partially set. Thoroughly drain cucumber. Fold into gelatin with grapes and chives. Pour into 8 to 10 custard cups or 1 9-inch square pan. Chill until set. Unmold or cut into squares. Serve on lettuce. Top with mayonnaise, if desired. Serves 8-10. Prep 20 minutes. Enjoy, my friend.
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Post by Laura on Apr 12, 2008 13:27:38 GMT -5
Another great author and someone I thought got a rotten deal during the O J Simpson trial is Mark Fuhrman. His books are excellent and all true crime. His latest book is about the JFK assassination and his take on the evidence and conclusion in his opinion, as to who committed the crime. A great read. Yeah, but if he would have just told the truth-talk about political correctness to the nth degree. I always wonder why he didn't just say, "yeah, I used that word before, but making a racist comment doesn't make me a conspirator to frame a famous former football player." That being said, I'd think I'd rather read his books than anybody else that was part of the trial. When it's all said and done though, they have ALL made money off the brutal murders of two innocent human beings. I think I'll pass on those kind of 15 minutes of fame. I also wish Fuhrman had just been up front about that also. I remember like it was yesterday, hearing him on the witness stand denying he's ever used the "n" word, then proof that he had and his reason using it for that screen play. I felt absolutely awful for him. It didn't make me feel any differently toward him, just that he could have shut those attorney's up on the spot. Ironically two of those attorney's are now dead. The others aren't even hear about anymore. Mark Fuhrman is laughing all the way to the bank, unfortunately, because of the murders, but if he hadn't been maligned and had no choice but to quit the department, I'm sure he would have still been there. His so-called partners Lange and Vanatter sure distanced themselves from him early on.
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Post by Laura on Apr 12, 2008 18:39:07 GMT -5
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Post by bluestocking on Apr 13, 2008 11:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by moonstone on Apr 13, 2008 11:27:04 GMT -5
Thanks, blue, as always a treat. I especially liked peeking into the original of Jane Austen's History of England, where on successive pages, she definitively settles the question of whether Richard the III murdered the two little princes (LoL) -- Edward the 5thThis unfortunate Prince lived so little a while that nobody had time to draw his picture. He was murdered by his Uncle's Contrivance, whose name was Richard the 3rd.Richard the 3rdThe Character of this Prince has been in general very severely treated by Historians, but as he was a York, I am rather inclined to suppose him a very respectable Man. It has indeed been confidently asserted that he killed his two Nephews & his Wife, but it has also been declared that he did not kill his two Nephews, which I am inclined to beleive true; & if this is the case, it may also be affirmed that he did not kill his Wife, for if Perkin Warbeck was really the Duke of York, why might not Lambert Simnel be the Widow of Richard. Whether innocent or guilty, he did not reign long in peace, for Henry Tudor E. of Richmond as great a villain as ever lived, made a great fuss about getting the Crown & having killed the King at the battle of Bosworth, he succeeded to it.
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Post by chrisfondaborder on Apr 13, 2008 12:27:14 GMT -5
Wow! If nothing else, folks on this blog are a well-read bunch! But where are the great American authors on that list? I see someone mentioned Twain - what happened to William Faulkner, Melville, Hawthorne, Poe?
I have to admit, that outside of work, my taste in lit-ra-tooor is pretty . . . well, trashy. I never recovered from my childhood addiction to Barbara Cartland romances. (Oh, Lord! What a confession to make!) I also like Joseph Wambaugh ("The Choirboys" was my favorite), Robert Tannebaum writes (or used to - these days they're almost all ghost written) a nice thriller and I've read every thing that Dan Brown has written. I find them to be page-turners . . . if for no other reason than they keep the reader turning the page to find out what improbable plot device the author is going to ask the reader to accept!
Recently, though, I've discovered a stunning new author, Sara Gruen. I whole-heartedly recommend her works, all of which have been critical successes. But if you were going to leave me on a deserted island, I would like to have with me:
1. The Holy Bible (King James Version). The power of the language and imagery can't be beat. 2. The Complete Works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 3. "Travels With Charley, in Search of America", by John Steinbeck (Steinbeck's comments on America and Americans are still valid today, perhaps even more so.)
And if anybody out there writes a better police-procedural than P. D. James, I haven't found her/him yet!
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Post by moonstone on Apr 13, 2008 12:49:40 GMT -5
Funny. I was thinking about Melville yesterday ... Moby Thingy, of course. Also Hemingway and Steinbeck. And for me Edith Wharton and Henry James.
For legal thrillers, I don't think anyone mentioned John Grisham, either.
A few other mystery writers I like are the ubiquitous Janet Evanovich (although mystery is probably a misnomer, the first few books in her number series are among the funniest books I've ever read), Elizabeth George and Martha Grimes (who write British mysteries), Lisa Scottoline, who writes about Philadelphia, and Perry O'Shaunessy (who are actually sisters writing together), who set their stories in Lake Tahoe and I think it's Malibu.
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Post by bluestocking on Apr 13, 2008 13:23:29 GMT -5
Thanks, blue, as always a treat. I especially liked peeking into the original of Jane Austen's History of England, where on successive pages, she definitively settles the question of whether Richard the III murdered the two little princes (LoL) -- Edward the 5thThis unfortunate Prince lived so little a while that nobody had time to draw his picture. He was murdered by his Uncle's Contrivance, whose name was Richard the 3rd.Richard the 3rdThe Character of this Prince has been in general very severely treated by Historians, but as he was a York, I am rather inclined to suppose him a very respectable Man. It has indeed been confidently asserted that he killed his two Nephews & his Wife, but it has also been declared that he did not kill his two Nephews, which I am inclined to beleive true; & if this is the case, it may also be affirmed that he did not kill his Wife, for if Perkin Warbeck was really the Duke of York, why might not Lambert Simnel be the Widow of Richard. Whether innocent or guilty, he did not reign long in peace, for Henry Tudor E. of Richmond as great a villain as ever lived, made a great fuss about getting the Crown & having killed the King at the battle of Bosworth, he succeeded to it. I think Miss A would have approved of Sharon Penman's take on the subject -- I know I do! www.amazon.com/Sunne-Splendour-Novel-Richard-III/dp/031237593X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208110511&sr=8-1To do couple of my segues, I've worked/volunteered/whatever for a couple of the local theatres. The late great George Grizzard was in town for an extended production of "Showboat" and I was discussing with a friend how in three months of watching him in this he brought something different to the stage every night. That friend's mother worked behind the scenes at the Guthrie in its early days, when a much younger Grizzard starred in Richard III and shared an anecdote of how one night he blanked out in a key scene. On stage alone and no one backstage was paying attention--apparently because no one thought there would be any problems with this scene--when he muttered "line, g-d**-it, LINE." The friend's mother muttered back, "a horse, g-d**-it, a horse." My favorite take on the story is still the audience-participation one in "Eyre Affair."
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