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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 19:54:19 GMT -5
Thanks Moon & Linda. Your thought & prayers mean alot. I know my Mom knows all of us, but sometimes she just can't come up with the right name, or the right words. But I am so far away and that bothers me. I am going in a few weeks, so maybe when she is able to see me daily, she will begin to remember and connect the name with a face. It is so weird, because 2 weeks ago she called me and asked me what I thought about Obama kind of waffling on health care, so I know she is still here and fighting. My mom had pneumonia that went to sepsis, and she literally came within a couple of hours of dying; she was in the ICU and babbling on and on about hitting the doctors and all sorts of nonsense. When I got there, the nurses were tsk tsk tsking and speculating that her mind was gone. I walked into her room, where she was highly agitated and struggling against her IV tubes as she tried to communicate. I could see immediately that she was just angry because no one would believe her. I got her to calm down and asked her to write down what she was trying to say. To my surprise, no one had tried this. She wrote down what seemed to be a coherent message, in her normal handwriting, and then I knew that, even though it seemed preposterous, she was trying to tell her version of the truth. I had the nurses check with the surgeons, and sure enough, it turned out that she had, in fact, hit one of the doctors in her delirium. So, don't mistake a little temporary, drug-induced incoherence for permanent dementia. There's still hope. At some point, it may all come flooding back.
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 19:58:16 GMT -5
Do you have any booze in your bucket, Moon? I think we all need one. I think it might be time for a shot!!! Here you go, Patty. Fair isn't here, so anyone object to Jameson's?
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 19:58:47 GMT -5
If God tells Michele Bachmann to run for president, then he really does have a sense of humor!
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 19:59:49 GMT -5
I think it might be time for a shot!!! Here you go, Patty. Fair isn't here, so anyone object to Jameson's? Not I.
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 20:00:07 GMT -5
If God tells Michele Bachmann to run for president, then he really does have a sense of humor! LoL ... a totally puckish sense of humor, given that he must have also told Barack Obama to run in 2008.
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Post by pattycake on Aug 17, 2009 20:00:40 GMT -5
Thanks Moon & Linda. Your thought & prayers mean alot. I know my Mom knows all of us, but sometimes she just can't come up with the right name, or the right words. But I am so far away and that bothers me. I am going in a few weeks, so maybe when she is able to see me daily, she will begin to remember and connect the name with a face. It is so weird, because 2 weeks ago she called me and asked me what I thought about Obama kind of waffling on health care, so I know she is still here and fighting. My mom had pneumonia that went to sepsis, and she literally came within a couple of hours of dying; she was in the ICU and babbling on and on about hitting the doctors and all sorts of nonsense. When I got there, the nurses were tsk tsk tsking and speculating that her mind was gone. I walked into her room, where she was highly agitated and struggling against her IV tubes as she tried to communicate. I could see immediately that she was just angry because no one would believe her. I got her to calm down and asked her to write down what she was trying to say. To my surprise, no one had tried this. She wrote down what seemed to be a coherent message, in her normal handwriting, and then I knew that, even though it seemed preposterous, she was trying to tell her version of the truth. I had the nurses check with the surgeons, and sure enough, it turned out that she had, in fact, hit one of the doctors in her delirium. So, don't mistake a little temporary, drug-induced incoherence for permanent dementia. There's still hope. At some point, it may all come flooding back. Thanks Moon, it does help to hear other stories about this because I have been fortunate thus far to not have experienced this. I guess it is just hitting me hard that the first person I am experiencing this with is my Mom. Sometimes she is coherent and other times not, so it just takes me aback. She will say something that makes you know she knows what is going on, and will then follow it with something that doesn't make sense. That makes it very emotional for me.
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Post by pattycake on Aug 17, 2009 20:01:28 GMT -5
Here you go, Patty. Fair isn't here, so anyone object to Jameson's? Not I. Thank you Moon. No objections here!!
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 20:02:03 GMT -5
If Delay is on DWTS, I won't be able to watch. That's one of the few network shows that I like and now he's going to ruin it for me. I can't help but wonder which of the dancers drew the short straw. Whoever it is, I hope she puts a foot wrong, right up the jaxie. Tom Delay is going to DANCE? OMG What next, D.ick Cheney?
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Post by pattycake on Aug 17, 2009 20:03:17 GMT -5
By the way-the only reason I was watching & listening to KO tonight is because the White Sox are in a rain delay in Chicago right now. ;D
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:04:11 GMT -5
My mom had pneumonia that went to sepsis, and she literally came within a couple of hours of dying; she was in the ICU and babbling on and on about hitting the doctors and all sorts of nonsense. When I got there, the nurses were tsk tsk tsking and speculating that her mind was gone. I walked into her room, where she was highly agitated and struggling against her IV tubes as she tried to communicate. I could see immediately that she was just angry because no one would believe her. I got her to calm down and asked her to write down what she was trying to say. To my surprise, no one had tried this. She wrote down what seemed to be a coherent message, in her normal handwriting, and then I knew that, even though it seemed preposterous, she was trying to tell her version of the truth. I had the nurses check with the surgeons, and sure enough, it turned out that she had, in fact, hit one of the doctors in her delirium. So, don't mistake a little temporary, drug-induced incoherence for permanent dementia. There's still hope. At some point, it may all come flooding back. Thanks Moon, it does help to hear other stories about this because I have been fortunate thus far to not have experienced this. I guess it is just hitting me hard that the first person I am experiencing this with is my Mom. Sometimes she is coherent and other times not, so it just takes me aback. She will say something that makes you know she knows what is going on, and will then follow it with something that doesn't make sense. That makes it very emotional for me. Sometimes, as they get older, our parents become almost like our children. We just have to be there (not necessarily in person), and be strong for them.
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Post by pattycake on Aug 17, 2009 20:04:28 GMT -5
If Delay is on DWTS, I won't be able to watch. That's one of the few network shows that I like and now he's going to ruin it for me. I can't help but wonder which of the dancers drew the short straw. Whoever it is, I hope she puts a foot wrong, right up the jaxie. Tom Delay is going to DANCE? OMG What next, D.ick Cheney? I might watch just so I can phone in for anyone but him and see him booted after the first show.
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:05:24 GMT -5
If Delay is on DWTS, I won't be able to watch. That's one of the few network shows that I like and now he's going to ruin it for me. I can't help but wonder which of the dancers drew the short straw. Whoever it is, I hope she puts a foot wrong, right up the jaxie. Tom Delay is going to DANCE? OMG What next, D.ick Cheney? Yes, he is! Grrrrr!
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:07:36 GMT -5
Tom Delay is going to DANCE? OMG What next, D.ick Cheney? I might watch just so I can phone in for anyone but him and see him booted after the first show. I've already got my family lined up to vote on-line and on the phone. If I thought tom-toms would do any good, I'd use them too.
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:09:34 GMT -5
Rachel is being really sarcastic about the health plan.
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Post by pattycake on Aug 17, 2009 20:11:01 GMT -5
Thanks Moon, it does help to hear other stories about this because I have been fortunate thus far to not have experienced this. I guess it is just hitting me hard that the first person I am experiencing this with is my Mom. Sometimes she is coherent and other times not, so it just takes me aback. She will say something that makes you know she knows what is going on, and will then follow it with something that doesn't make sense. That makes it very emotional for me. Sometimes, as they get older, our parents become almost like our children. We just have to be there (not necessarily in person), and be strong for them. How true. I just don't want to see her suffer. My mom is 4'9" but one of the toughest ladies you would ever meet. And it it sad to see her so weak. She has always been so active & to see her in this state is just sad. But I do try & always stay strong for her & my Dad.
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 20:13:34 GMT -5
Rachel is being really sarcastic about the health plan. There was one point yesterday where she had Armey on the dead run, and Gregory summarily -- and rudely -- cut her off, saying, "okay, we need to move on ..." Otherwise, she was pretty good. Daschle had one really good moment, too, when he pointed out this whole thing is supposed to be designed for the benefit of the American people, and NOT for the benefit of health insurance companies. Republicans always start from the proposition that if the plan hurts private insurance, it's evil. Just the opposite, in fact. it's private insurance that's killing health care, and not very slowly, but certainly very surely.
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:14:03 GMT -5
Sometimes, as they get older, our parents become almost like our children. We just have to be there (not necessarily in person), and be strong for them. How true. I just don't want to see her suffer. My mom is 4'9" but one of the toughest ladies you would ever meet. And it it sad to see her so weak. She has always been so active & to see her in this state is just sad. But I do try & always stay strong for her & my Dad. Just think how lucky we all are in having parents who love(d) us and whom we love(d). Some people never get to feel what we feel.
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 20:15:38 GMT -5
Okay, I can't hold out against temptation any longer.
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:16:45 GMT -5
Rachel is being really sarcastic about the health plan. There was one point yesterday where she had Armey on the dead run, and Gregory summarily -- and rudely -- cut her off, saying, "okay, we need to move on ..." Otherwise, she was pretty good. Daschle had one really good moment, too, when he pointed out this whole thing is supposed to be designed for the benefit of the American people, and NOT for the benefit of health insurance companies. Republicans always start from the proposition that if the plan hurts private insurance, it's evil. Just the opposite, in fact. it's private insurance that's killing health care, and not very slowly, but certainly very surely. I got the impression that she would have loved to have wiped the floor with him. He's such a condescending and chauvinistic arsehole.
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Post by pattycake on Aug 17, 2009 20:17:35 GMT -5
How true. I just don't want to see her suffer. My mom is 4'9" but one of the toughest ladies you would ever meet. And it it sad to see her so weak. She has always been so active & to see her in this state is just sad. But I do try & always stay strong for her & my Dad. Just think how lucky we all are in having parents who love(d) us and whom we love(d). Some people never get to feel what we feel. I know that I am lucky despite all the sadness I have been feeling lately. And I am fortunate to have my parents still with us. Many of my friends have lost their parents at an earlier age.
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 20:18:07 GMT -5
How true. I just don't want to see her suffer. My mom is 4'9" but one of the toughest ladies you would ever meet. And it it sad to see her so weak. She has always been so active & to see her in this state is just sad. But I do try & always stay strong for her & my Dad. Just think how lucky we all are in having parents who love(d) us and whom we love(d). Some people never get to feel what we feel. That's too true. One of my colleagues brought back pictures from his trip to visit his missionary cousin in Africa, and some of the pictures were little kids who were living in the streets because their parents had died of AIDS. No one seemed to think too much about it or have any idea of what to do about it. Those kids were doomed to (probably) short lives, without much hope, and even less comfort. I can't think of anything sadder than that.
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:18:10 GMT -5
Okay, I can't hold out against temptation any longer. I already gave in. The lava cake in the freezer was calling my name.
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 20:19:41 GMT -5
There was one point yesterday where she had Armey on the dead run, and Gregory summarily -- and rudely -- cut her off, saying, "okay, we need to move on ..." Otherwise, she was pretty good. Daschle had one really good moment, too, when he pointed out this whole thing is supposed to be designed for the benefit of the American people, and NOT for the benefit of health insurance companies. Republicans always start from the proposition that if the plan hurts private insurance, it's evil. Just the opposite, in fact. it's private insurance that's killing health care, and not very slowly, but certainly very surely. I got the impression that she would have loved to have wiped the floor with him. He's such a condescending and chauvinistic arsehole. So did I. And the other republican (Coburn) is so SMARMY. Eeeuww. What a combination.
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Post by moonstone on Aug 17, 2009 20:21:55 GMT -5
I do NOT get this whole thing with the Secret Service. George Bush did not allow protesters within two miles of his motorcades, and the Secret Service here is permitting people to be carrying guns in close proximity to the President of the United States. I suppose this might possibly be partly Obama's fault for insisting on going places where George W. Bush would never have gone, but doggone that's the Secret Service's job to protect him.
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Post by nanalinda on Aug 17, 2009 20:26:32 GMT -5
I do NOT get this whole thing with the Secret Service. George Bush did not allow protesters within two miles of his motorcades, and the Secret Service here is permitting people to be carrying guns in close proximity to the President of the United States. I suppose this might possibly be partly Obama's fault for insisting on going places where George W. Bush would never have gone, but doggone that's the Secret Service's job to protect him. You know I've been thinking the same thing. At the VFW event today, I spotted only one agent and he was standing by BO's side. I had expected someone to be standing in front of the POTUS.
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