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Post by rory on Jul 1, 2009 16:47:09 GMT -5
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Post by g1 on Jul 1, 2009 17:55:57 GMT -5
We may be run out of celebs it they keep up this pace. Sad news all around. I had no idea Malden was so old. I enjoyed Molly S in AYBS -- I was slow to appreciate the series but really enjoyed it once I had seen it a few times. Harve Presnell -- the name s not at all familiar, though some of his work is.
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Post by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 17:57:05 GMT -5
Goodness, our RIP thread is getting full. I'm sorry to say I wasn't familiar with Mollie Sugden, though I have heard of the British series Are You Being Served. Loved Karl Malden in the Streets of San Francisco. He lived a long, long life. One veteran actor I was thinking we will certainly hear about in the near future passing is Harry Morgan..Colonel Potter on the long running M*A*S*H. He must be up in years now. His passing will certainly make me sad. Karl Malden was a kind man; as a teenager, we used to be able to call the SFPD and they would tell us where The Streets of San Francisco was being filmed at any given day. A few of us loyal fans of the show would go quite often and see the show filmed live!! Michael Douglas was also very nice, then Richard Hatch!! I have many autographs of Karl Malden, Michael Douglas and Richard Hatch, too; I will miss him!!
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Post by nanalinda on Jul 6, 2009 15:28:35 GMT -5
I have never before agreed with anything that Peter King has uttered, but I must agree that the media have gone overboard with the coverage of Michael Jackson's death. I can't wait for Wednesday when, hopefully, the media will remember that some of us are sick of the 24 hour daily coverage for what seems like months. They are in an absolute frenzy that is both tiring and tiresome. As for King's assertion that Michael was a pedophile, I'm not convinced, but am still open to the fact that he may have been. King should have stuck to the complaint that the media have milked this event for all its worth and beyond. Enough!
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Post by Laura on Jul 6, 2009 16:42:49 GMT -5
I have never before agreed with anything that Peter King has uttered, but I must agree that the media have gone overboard with the coverage of Michael Jackson's death. I can't wait for Wednesday when, hopefully, the media will remember that some of us are sick of the 24 hour daily coverage for what seems like months. They are in an absolute frenzy that is both tiring and tiresome. As for King's assertion that Michael was a pedophile, I'm not convinced, but am still open to the fact that he may have been. King should have stuck to the complaint that the media have milked this event for all its worth and beyond. Enough! Hi Nana and everyone.. I too am tired of all the media coverage about Michael Jackson. His music did contribute much to the entertainment industry, however, enough is enough. Unfortunately, this story is far from over. There is still the toxicology report coming out weeks from now. The media and every talk show will dissect it, the story will go on and on. Like Elvis, this will never go away. There is talk that Neverland may become like Graceland. I hope not.
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Post by rory on Jul 8, 2009 17:05:27 GMT -5
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Post by moonstone on Jul 8, 2009 18:48:06 GMT -5
The Oscar Mayer Company was sold many years ago to Kraft Foods, and then ultimately to some other entity, I believe. Over the years, the Mayer family has done a great deal of philanthropic good in my community. When I was a kid, it was a big deal to have an Oscar Mayer w!ener whistle. Not to make light of this, but it was very fitting that he took his last ride in the Wienermobile. RIP
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Post by moonstone on Jul 8, 2009 18:59:06 GMT -5
One of the greatest contributions made by the Oscar Mayer family in my community (specifically by Eugenie Mayer Bolz) was the donation of the money that underwrote a botanical conservatory (my picture wouldn't post) that ultimately became the foundation for what is now becoming a world-class botanical garden ... Probably my favorite place to visit in my hometown.
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Post by Fairweather on Jul 8, 2009 19:01:51 GMT -5
One of the greatest contributions made by the Oscar Mayer family in my community (specifically by Eugenie Mayer Bolz) was the donation of the money that underwrote a botanical conservatory (my picture wouldn't post) that ultimately became the foundation for what is now becoming a world-class botanical garden ... Probably my favorite place to visit in my hometown. And SOOOOO creatively requisitioned. . .
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Post by g1 on Jul 9, 2009 19:24:49 GMT -5
The Oscar Mayer Company was sold many years ago to Kraft Foods, and then ultimately to some other entity, I believe. Over the years, the Mayer family has done a great deal of philanthropic good in my community. When I was a kid, it was a big deal to have an Oscar Mayer w!ener whistle. Not to make light of this, but it was very fitting that he took his last ride in the Wienermobile. RIP RIP Oscar. Years ago, I spent a week one day in the Oscar Mayer auditorium in Madison. I was greatly amused that persons weren't allowed to eat on stage. Maybe because it was a granola bar.
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Post by moonstone on Jul 9, 2009 19:28:33 GMT -5
The Oscar Mayer Company was sold many years ago to Kraft Foods, and then ultimately to some other entity, I believe. Over the years, the Mayer family has done a great deal of philanthropic good in my community. When I was a kid, it was a big deal to have an Oscar Mayer w!ener whistle. Not to make light of this, but it was very fitting that he took his last ride in the Wienermobile. RIP RIP Oscar. Years ago, I spent a week one day in the Oscar Mayer auditorium in Madison. I was greatly amused that persons weren't allowed to eat on stage. Maybe because it was a granola bar. You should see it now. It's a $250 million performing arts facility and the Oscar Mayer theater has been totally renovated. There's also a 2000 seat concert hall that I bet would stack up against anything. It was designed by Cesar Pelli. That facility was paid for by the family who owned the Pleasant Company (dolls) before that was sold to Mattel. And the money didn't even come out of that fund. Sheesh.
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Post by g1 on Jul 9, 2009 20:37:24 GMT -5
You should see it now. It's a $250 million performing arts facility and the Oscar Mayer theater has been totally renovated. There's also a 2000 seat concert hall that I bet would stack up against anything. It was designed by Cesar Pelli. That facility was paid for by the family who owned the Pleasant Company (dolls) before that was sold to Mattel. And the money didn't even come out of that fund. Sheesh. It was an impressive place way back when -- 10-12 yrs ago, maybe. I supervised the load-in of Tales of Hoffman. (One of the few load-ins that wasn't a total disaster --which is probably why I haven't repressed the memory.) They didn't let me sing, though.
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Post by Aunt Ornery on Jul 17, 2009 19:45:32 GMT -5
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Post by moonstone on Jul 17, 2009 19:46:40 GMT -5
Good evening, Auntie. Fair told us about your accident. Hope you're feeling better.
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Post by pdb on Jul 17, 2009 19:47:33 GMT -5
Good evening, Auntie. Fair told us about your accident. Hope you're feeling better. Hello, Auntie!! So good to see you here and thank you so much for the link!!
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Post by moonstone on Jul 18, 2009 17:23:17 GMT -5
Here's an official RIP for Walter Cronkite (1916 - 2009), who died last evening at the age of 92. An impeccably impartial reporter except maybe for two things ... spaceflight, for which he was an enthusiastic cheerleader ... ... and Vietnam, for which he wasn't. After Cronkite went on record saying that the best we could do in Vietnam was a draw, Lyndon Johnson was said to have observed that if he had lost Cronkite, then he had lost the support of middle America for the war. Cronkite was considered the most trusted person in American journalism for many years. This famous image shows Cronkite removing his glasses as he read a bulletin that officially announced that President Kennedy had died. I didn't see this live, but in the years since, I have always believed that, in many ways, he was choking back America's tears. And that's the way it is. Rest in peace, Walter Cronkite.
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Post by g1 on Jul 18, 2009 21:53:54 GMT -5
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Post by moonstone on Jul 18, 2009 22:49:55 GMT -5
This is VERY powerful and another article for me to R-I-P off and post at Aero. By the way, the Russert part was very interesting to me, if only because I said during the Scooter Libby period that it was interesting to consider why Libby believed Russert would take the fall for him. That statement by David Gregory that is quoted is also very interesting, especially in light of his current position on Meet the Press, which used to be a show about something, and now is a show about Gregory's ego. Thank you VERY much for this article, which I never would have found otherwise.
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Post by nanalinda on Jul 19, 2009 0:13:49 GMT -5
This is VERY powerful and another article for me to R-I-P off and post at Aero. By the way, the Russert part was very interesting to me, if only because I said during the Scooter Libby period that it was interesting to consider why Libby believed Russert would take the fall for him. That statement by David Gregory that is quoted is also very interesting, especially in light of his current position on Meet the Press, which used to be a show about something, and now is a show about Gregory's ego. Thank you VERY much for this article, which I never would have found otherwise. I'll never forget the sight of Gregory sharing the stage with the dancing Rove. So-called reporters will do and say anything in order to be seen hobnobbing with those in power. Reporters are as political as the politicians. They're almost all purely ego-driven and lazy. We suffered through almost three weeks of Michael Jackson coverage simply because it was easy. Only now, after 8 years, have they decided that the Decider's decisions need to be investigated. Why? Simply because they were scared of not being allowed to sit center stage at White House briefings.
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Post by g1 on Jul 19, 2009 17:42:07 GMT -5
This is VERY powerful and another article for me to R-I-P off and post at Aero. By the way, the Russert part was very interesting to me, if only because I said during the Scooter Libby period that it was interesting to consider why Libby believed Russert would take the fall for him. That statement by David Gregory that is quoted is also very interesting, especially in light of his current position on Meet the Press, which used to be a show about something, and now is a show about Gregory's ego. Thank you VERY much for this article, which I never would have found otherwise. Yr welcum, moon. Most of the stuff I steal comes from newsvine.com, where I do battle daily with the wingnuts. Very true. I recall an interview with an announcer on one of the old fashioned newsreels -- who virtually never appeared on camera. In the earliest days it was all about the images, and the narrator, who occasionally tagged along while they were filming, would suggest to the cameraman that he look over here or look over there. Now it's nearly inconceivable to have a story in which the talking head doesn't appear, often in front of whatever it is that the story is about...
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Post by nanalinda on Jul 19, 2009 19:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by Fairweather on Jul 20, 2009 12:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by Fairweather on Jul 20, 2009 12:44:48 GMT -5
I only read one of McCourt's books-- Angela's Ashes--but I was literally in awe of the guy's talent, both as writer and memoirist. Unforgettably sad and yet triumphant story.
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Post by moonstone on Jul 20, 2009 13:28:03 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I can't quite figure out what he wants to say. Is he saying that Cronkite wasn't really all that objective, so that justifies that he's not? If so, then he has only cited the most obvious few examples that are all over the media of where Cronkite deviated from objectivity. If he was actually a student of Cronkite, he ought to have better examples than those. And if that's what he's saying, then maybe he ought to climb all over his colleague David Gregory for ... oh, I don't know ... maybe just general misbehavior, plus the stupid statement he made in G's Salon.com article. But that's just me. Many believe that Countdown is actually the successor to Cronkite. Unfortunately, I don't quite get that. Countdown is more and more about commentary and less and less about reporting. Cronkite would never have spent the time that Countdown spends on his petty self-aggrandizing feuds with his counterparts. Cronkite was genuinely curious and devoted to explaining things to people in ways that might illuminate. More and more, I'm not sure about Countdown. Nowadays, Rachel Maddow embodies these characteristics much more than Countdown. And, I'm sorry, but "that's the way it is," at least for me.
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Post by nanalinda on Jul 20, 2009 14:11:29 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I can't quite figure out what he wants to say. Is he saying that Cronkite wasn't really all that objective, so that justifies that he's not? If so, then he has only cited the most obvious few examples that are all over the media of where Cronkite deviated from objectivity. If he was actually a student of Cronkite, he ought to have better examples than those. And if that's what he's saying, then maybe he ought to climb all over his colleague David Gregory for ... oh, I don't know ... maybe just general misbehavior, plus the stupid statement he made in G's Salon.com article. But that's just me. Many believe that Countdown is actually the successor to Cronkite. Unfortunately, I don't quite get that. Countdown is more and more about commentary and less and less about reporting. Cronkite would never have spent the time that Countdown spends on his petty self-aggrandizing feuds with his counterparts. Cronkite was genuinely curious and devoted to explaining things to people in ways that might illuminate. More and more, I'm not sure about Countdown. Nowadays, Rachel Maddow embodies these characteristics much more than Countdown. And, I'm sorry, but "that's the way it is," at least for me. I so wanted to add my paltry 2 cents worth, but, Moon, you said it all. Today we have news that is driven by the overblown egos and salaries of the presenters who can no longer be called journalists or reporters.
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